Are Latinos oppressed in America?
Some time back, the Mexican foreign minister said to us: Got terrorism problems? You're on your own! Want a new Iraq U.N. resolution? Don't count on our vote in the Security Council! You don't like Fidel Castro? That's too bad. We like him, again; in fact, we're rebuilding our links with him. We don't get all this human rights stuff you Yankees worry about.
And the Mexican press said this week: Your new California governor, Arnold, is a racist. Pete Wilson is advising him and we're ready to raise hell if that womanizing bodybuilder mistreats our countrymen as they keep California's economy alive!
Does this sound contrived? Not in interpreting the Mexican messages. Meanwhile, the Mexican government and a lock-stepped Mexican press are aggressively pushing and cajoling the Bush Administration to sign up to legalize the millions of illegal Mexican immigrants in the U.S. They are also working on and feeding the U.S. Latino-oriented media hard and using any U.S. “immigrant rights” advocates they can get to shill for them in promoting legalization of these workers and their families. So why are the top Mexican officials suddenly kicking us in the shins as this goes on?
Here's another incident. On Friday night, October 10, a prominent Los Angeles radio talk show host encouraged his large audience to boycott Mexico as a tourist destination. His reasons, he said, “Why spend our dollars there? They don’t like us and they disrespect us.” Foreign policy reasons? No. The radio host, Al Rantell of KABC, devoted more than an hour of his show to the stories around Armando Garcia, a Mexican national. Garcia allegedly shot and killed a Los Angeles County deputy sheriff in cold blood — and escaped across the border to safety and freedom. He is not even incarcerated in Mexico.
Over the hour, Rantell had as guests L.A. District Attorney, Steve Cooley, the murdered deputy sheriff’s widow, and several other surviving spouses and parents and siblings of murdered, raped, and kidnapped Angelinos, all victims of presumed Mexican illegals who had fled to Mexico after committing their crimes. From Los Angeles County alone, Mr. Cooley estimated that three hundred of these violent and heinous criminals are enjoying the protection of the Mexican government from extradition back to the United States for trial!
What is the Mexican official response to inquiries from hundreds of U.S. law enforcement and relatives? Mexico says the country has no capital punishment or life imprisonment without parole, and that all criminals can supposedly be rehabilitated. Thus, Mexico will not allow a fugitive-from-American-justice Mexican national to be returned for trial since, if convicted, he or she might face punishment of the death penalty or an indeterminate sentence for a crime, no matter its seriousness.
Consider the irony. U.S. immigrant advocates and their Mexican government prevaricators preach at us constantly about the horrible death toll of Mexicans in the northern Sonora desert or Arizona and Texas badlands as they attempt illegal border crossings. Yet it's impossible to recall comparable stories in ours or the Mexican press about the hundreds of American residents (many Latino) who have died violently or been raped or otherwise violated by willful attacks from Mexican citizens on U.S. soil who then fled and reached safe haven in Mexico. Are Mexican desert deaths more “relevant” than American victims of Mexican killers?
Even beyond this hypocrisy is the total lack of media stories of the Mexican criminals who return home (sometimes coming back, committing more U.S. crimes, and returning to Mexico again!), knowing full well that a few dollars spread here and there assure their safety from apprehension and extradition back to the U.S. They might be cold-blooded killers but they will never serve one day in jail if they remain in Mexico. This behavior of Mexico is not a mere kick in the shins; it is a boot in the American gonads!
But let's get back to the Mexican insults to Arnold Schwarzenegger, selected on October 7 by 48 percent of California's voters as Governor-elect of California. La Jornada, a major Mexico City newspaper covering U.S./Mexico affairs with a vengeance, on October 8 deplores the election of Arnold, calling him “a Republican actor” who is “racist, anti-Mexican, anti-Hispanic, discriminatory and a sexual exploiter of women who work with him.” Of those California Latinos (40 percent) who voted Republican, La Jornada says they engaged in “un acto político que raya en actitudes autodestructivas” or “a political act marked by an attitude of self-destructiveness.”
The Mexican media clips with the above quotes and those below are provided by the “Institute of Mexicans Abroad” (IME), an official mechanism of the SRE, Secretaria de Relaciones Exteriores, the Mexican foreign ministry. The IME has 100 U.S. Mexican residents (presumably legal) as advisors. The opinions and sentiments expressed in the Mexican press quoted here are therefore obviously considered proper for U.S. interests to recognize and understand as reflecting Mexican government support! Conflicting clips are never provided in the SRE newsletter.
In Mexico City, El Financiero, a respected financial newspaper, reported that the secretary of the interior, Santiago Creel Miranda, and Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez assured their nation publicly on October 8 that because of the Schwarzenegger victory “the Mexican Government will be particularly vigilant to denounce any violation of human rights or worker’s rights of their compatriots in California.” Even the governor of Baja California, Eugenio Elordoy, predicted “difficult times” because of ex-governor Pete Wilson being on Arnold's team since he represented a past “administration characterized by anti-immigrant policies.” So much for the immediate possible success of cross-border harmony in the Californias!
Before the California Recall exercise ended, in late September, El Universal, a more moderate Mexico paper than La Jornada, reported that Foreign Secretary Derbez had announced a new “security doctrine” for Mexico. It clashed with what Washington had expected would be a dependable partnership with Mexico and other nations in the war on terror. Never using the word “terrorism,” Derbez said that the concept of “one for all and all for one” was an “outdated World War II concept!”
“No state can impose on another its own security agenda, nor the order of its priorities,” Derbez added as he opened a conference on regional security. He went on: “Security should be understood as a reality for each country — not as hemispheric, because there is no military, strategic or ideological enemy outside the region which is attacking it as a whole.” Huh?
This weird posture is not just a kick in the shins directed at the U.S. It flies in the face of Mexico's assurances of cooperation with us on terrorism prior to this announcement and comes as we seek United Nations help for our work in what we see as the prime current theater for the war on terror, Iraq.
One must assume that Secretary Derbez checked in with President Vicente Fox before this strange positioning. Or is this really internal posturing, while Colin Powell and President Bush are otherwise being reassured? If so, the Mexicans forgot to tell the Dallas Morning News and a few other alert American papers who are still puzzled by these events and are reflecting American pique with these regrettable and irritating Mexican games.
And the reversal on Cuba? A Derbez deputy has said that Mexico was “starting to improve relations with Cuba,” and to build a “new agenda” for cooperation. Undersecretary Miguel Hakin's remarks followed a meeting in New York between Derbez and Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque. Yesterday, October 10, President Bush announced a new “get tough” policy with Cuba, saying the previously unspeakable, in effect: “Castro is bad. Castro has to go!”
How about that, Messrs. Fox and Derbez? Maybe Mr. Bush should have played back Secretary Derbez's own words, that security “should be understood as a reality for each country — not as hemispheric, because there is no military, strategic, or ideological enemy outside the region which is attacking it as a whole.”
Summing up, the new Mexican attitude and policies go beyond the mysterious. They seem illogical and certainly disturbing to ordinary Americans who are normally favorably disposed to the country. Mexico already dumped us on Iraq last year, and a repeat this year is almost expected. But the threat of non-cooperation on terrorism? Weird! Especially within the reality of NAFTA and immigration policy changes they want from us, including their need for U.S. dollars. The flaunting of a new Mexico-Fidel Castro buddy-buddy arrangement? Weirder!
And the unwarranted and stupid personal attacks on the governor-elect of their neighboring state with the fifth largest economy in the world? Incomprehensible.
The only sensible reaction from Americans is to remind Mexico that the “yanqui” has limits to his patience. Maybe we have to look harder at the billions of dollars that are shipped annually out of the U.S. by illegal “residents” back to Mexico. Maybe no immigration issues deserve addressing or meriting our support unless Mexico changes its inhuman and reprehensible policy of harboring perpetrators of violent, murderous crimes on Americans in their own homeland. On foreign policy, options abound. And common American citizens are not without a listened-to voice or controlled by their government as in other nations. Our press is free.
Just remember, Mexican friends: We are all walking through a dangerous jungle of new international hazards. Unless you are carrying a very large gun or are prepared to hide or run like hell, don't anger the lion who usually protects you!
Adapted from: Fernando Oaxaca on MEXIDATA.INFO.
Definitely they are. Till now the white ppl failed to get rid of the color problem.
Hmm, I agree. Still they have the color problem.
Yep they have color problem, they should get rid of it.
I think they are still oppressed in america.. The american can take others easily better then Latinos.
In some areas they are opressed, in others they are privileged.
One must assume that Secretary Derbez checked in with President Vicente Fox before ths strange positioning.
There is no doubt about that. If anyone deny on the topic I will have a strong will to kick his/her back.
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I am in confusion about there color problem
Not for long, soon enough they will be in the majority in America.
yes some country have racist problems.but it will be not under stable why this problems occurs.i dont think its a problem.
I thing something problem creating here. We should recover it.
I am agree with you.Mexican people should careful about it.
I think they are still oppressed. They get stepped on because no-one defends them. They take all the jobs that no-one else will do that makes our country run. I think they deserve a lot more credit then they are given, and deserve not to be looked down upon in our society.
Sometime government represent some problem to us that I cant realize that its a government problem or country members.
I think discrimination is now really part of everyday live. People always discriminate other race. It's a reality.
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I am sure that soon enough they will be in the majority in America.
I don't like this color problem.They should forget the deference between This color.
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We should avoid this color problem.I think its a bad job of mankind.
Surely they are. There is no confusion about this.
I am agree with you that Mexican friends are walking through a dangerous jungle of new international hazards.We should recover from this situation.
I know about this only sensible reaction from Americans is to remind Mexico that the “yanqui” has limits to his patience.You passed the U.S. by illegal “residents” and back to Mexico.
From my experience - they are, at least to some extent. What hurts them the most is the negative stereotype of a lazy illegal imigrant.. And as with most negative stereotypes, it's not true! unfortunately as usual it only takes a handful of bad apples to make the whole tree look bad...
We all should arrange a community for stop crime.Then we will able to lead a happy life.
This is so regretful that they are in a ultramodern age but their mind remain in dark age as still American can see difference between two people.
Yes color problem is still in America.A white people get frightened to see a black at night. It is so frustrating before our humanity.
Definitely....
The latino's are the countries new blacks.. I'm not trying to trivialize the intense racism felt by African Americans in the past century but along the same lines of justice and equality.... I definitely think the latino's are the countries un-respected.
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I totally agree, Latinos are oppressed in America, and unfortunately they probably always will be.
I think most of the ppl of the world like Fidel Castro.
Ya me too I think they deserve a lot more credit then they are given, and deserve not to be looked down upon in our society.
I think they are still oppressed in America..I cant realize that its a government problem or country members.
ya I also am in confusion about there color problem.
Yes definitely they are by the Americans. This is pity infact for the whole world.
I also in confusion about color problem.
Surely they are. Do U have any doubt of it.?
Definitely I believe WE are still oppressed in America... WE have to make a stand though and fight through the stereo types and chastise those that are not contributing to America, only taking from.
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I think they are still oppressed by Americans. But as you said that unless they are carrying a very large gun or are prepared to hide or run like hell, they shouldn't anger the lion who usually protects them. This is reality.
If anyone deny on the topic I will have a strong will to kick his/her back.
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Definitely!! I think that they are oppressed and unappreciated!!
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Fidel Castro,i like him as much as che.i am totally agree with your concept described in the post.i hate color discrimination.thanks for the post.
Moreover people or citizens have low criminal or rogue behavior but governments are culprit. It is not about Mexico Only but all the world, majority of third world countries have the same problems, atmosphere, and circumstances. It is worrying that what our foreign policies are being made for? They are just crap like other crap officials. Perhaps we need a major change in everything.
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agree with you.but i can't understand still why they have the color problems?i don't like the discrimination.nice post.
I think that they are definitely under appreciated... that's for sure.
The latinos are really suffering a lot in america.
The american can take others easily better then Latinos.
They take all the jobs that no-one else will do that makes our country run.
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Although the 9/11 attack was the worst terrorist attack but don't we have lost people more than that in war with Iraq? I am always confused and depressed.
Definitely they are. Still they have the color problem,they should get rid of it.One must assume that Secretary Derbez checked in with President Vicente Fox before ths strange positioning but There is no doubt about that. If anyone deny on the topic I will have a strong will to kick his/her back...
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Hmm, I agree. Still they have the color problem.
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I think they are still oppressed in america.. The american can take others easily better then Latinos.os
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Sometime government represent some problem to us that I cant realize that its a government problem or country members.
i dont think its a problem.
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I am sorry to hear that there is still color problem.
I second you, i really don't have any idea when are they going to stop discrimination between thew white and the black :). It is time to change things , its time to grow up :(
well i may agree with you .. but why the Mexican people aren't so conscious about this ??? they must ..otherwise they may get into problems. well sometimes discrimination works over there.
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I would like to know where you got this information you wrote about in this blog, "Are Latinos oppressed in America" from. Does the "color problem" really exist, or is it just magnified and blown way out of proportion by the media and news. Also, I'd like to point out the generalizations and stereotypes being made in all of these posts...white people this, black people that, latinos this, americans that...etc, etc. Not ALL people of one race, color, gender, nationality are the same. Maybe if people stopped making generalizations and started to look at people as individuals the discrimination would go away. Also, the word American includes all of the Americas, North, Central & South. If you are talking about the citizens of the United States of America, you may want to start using the words, U.S.A. people, or citizens of the U.S.A., because otherwise you are just contributing to the discrimination itself. I may be walking around with a blindfold on, but I'm pretty sure the color problem is not as HUGE as everyone here is making it out to be. I'd like to make one last note, before anyone goes on bashing a specific race, nationality, etc., think about what you are saying...are you contridicting yourself? It seems there are many a hypocrite that commented on this blog...
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Your talking about Latinos but this
article only about mexicans but yes
Latinos are oppressed in America they try to put everybody in a box
so they can be in control of how fare people go bast on race and you can't put all Hispanics in one pot were similar but not the same and they try to divide and conquer us
by using the color of our skin if
your dark skinned your bad if your light skinned your good if your white skinned your god an than we fight each other and start picking sides so i do think Hispanics are oppressed so
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I actually think that a lot of the racism that goes on is competely blown out of proportion. It´s sometimes as if people want to be discriminated against, so they can moan and use it as an excuse. On the other hand, there is some racism which is uncalled for and creates an issue which does need to be addressed.
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He is not even incarcerated in Mexico.
I think it not be happening.
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Manners are important in social interactions and involved normative concerns. Thus, we observe in these Latino/na respondents’ accounts some stipulations on when Latinos should use Spanish without appearing ill-mannered. It may seem that by voicing their adherence to this language etiquette, these Latinos/nas are being submissive, since whites are not subject to reciprocal restrictions. But whites are not defining these restrictions, Latinos/nas are. As we see consistently in their comments, they proclaim the right to use their mother tongue and at the same time they promote a tolerant language attitude. It is not their intention to replace English with Spanish. They are asserting their right to use their heritage language when it is not rude, a right that some won in battlefields wearing a military uniform. Such a tolerant ethic is beneficial to the oppressed, and respect for all can be advantageous to the targets of linguistic victimization. CONCLUSION The so-called browning of America has raised fears among many white Anglos, and the reason typically given is that Latinos/nas represent a threat to the American way of life, with the English language as a major symbol of that way of life. We have argued here that such protestations likely mask efforts on the part of whites to strengthen their hold on this society.
plz dont hate them.
The american can take others easily better then Latinos.
I am sure that many people may say different but it is true.
But not in every where. In some state the Latinos are really oppressed.
I think the present situation is only the reason of our old parents. who failed to take the new theory.
Yes I think they are... Oppression exists beyond the 'reality' of law. You can see it in the courts, on the streets, and in the schools. Check out federal funding in areas that have a high Latino rate and you'll see what I mean. It's sad really and I think it needs to change.
I think that yes, Latinos are Oppressed, I hope things change soon.
In America i do not know but in Spain yes.
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It is truth that white people do not want to come out of their color mentality.
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Good to hear of it!It is worrying that what our foreign policies are being made for? They are just crap like other crap officials. Perhaps we need a major change in everything. People or citizens have low criminal or rogue behavior but governments are culprit. It is not about Mexico Only but all the world, majority of third world countries have the same problems, atmosphere, and circumstances.
I thing something problem creating here.
i dont think its a problem.
One of my good friends is Latino and he got some great opportunities so I would say no.
I lived both in France and the US, and I noticed that people had the same behavior towards arabs in France as ameriocans have with latinos in the US.
color problem, they should get rid of it.
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I don't think they are opposed to America. I mean look where most of them try to come. I think they are really just jealous of our good looks.
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I am in confusion about there color problem too.
I think they deserve a lot more credit then they are given, and deserve not to be looked down upon in our society.
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I think party of the American area the Latinos are oppressed.
I guess its very normal in any other places...
Race Discrimination... its always normal nowadays.
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I don't think so that we Latinos are being oppressed.Yes this is true that there is still little color problem in some areas. But i hope i will be vanished after some times.
In some ways they do have it tough, but in other ways they have an advantage, so it evens out.
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I would say that Mexico is at fault for a lot of the reason that people need addiction treatment in this country. So are Latinos oppressed? Maybe they should be.
I also think that they have colour problem, They should get rid off it at leas now..
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I'm curious...aren't americans opressed too? I mean, of course many latin countries are opressed, but north americans are as well...at least mentally speaking
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I agree with u..The color problem will always be there!!!
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I agree with your views here. People there are still oppressed and the color problem continues.
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yes some country have racist problems.but it will be not under stable why this problems occurs.I am sure that many people may say different but it is true.
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What hurts them the most is the negative stereotype of a lazy illegal imigrant.. And as with most negative stereotypes
Unfortunately, yes, they still are.
I'm somewhat confused. Does your family have any Spanish, or etc. ancestry that would lead to the government or any body classifying you as such, or were they just Spanish speaking?
thanks and i am gretful that they are in a ultramodern age but their mind remain in dark age as still American can see difference between two people.
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If the Americans just got it together they would realize they could work with Mexico to make the continent better.
In some areas they are pressed, in others they are privileged.
yeahhh.........I think they are still oppressed in america.. The american can take others easily better then Latinos.
I actually think that a lot of the racism that goes on is competely blown out of proportion. It´s sometimes as if people want to be discriminated against, so they can moan and use it as an excuse. On the other hand, there is some racism which is uncalled for and creates an issue which does need to be addressed.
hey take all the jobs that no-one else will do that makes our country run. I think they deserve a lot more credit then they are given, and deserve not to be looked down upon in our society.
Certain areas they might be oppressed, but in some areas they're privileged.
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Definitely they are. Still they have the color problem,they should get rid of it.One must assume that Secretary Derbez checked in with President Vicente Fox before ths strange positioning but There is no doubt about that. If anyone deny on the topic I will have a strong will to kick his/her back...
As an educated American who is of Mexican decent I would have to say that, most Latinos are working hard at breaking stereotypes and making a difference. Yes, there are immigrant Latino's who do work in the fields and do back breaking work
I have heard also that Internalized racism in the Latino community also reveals itself at the individual level but I also agree that still they are facing colour problem.
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Not exactly one because nobody really has white skin or black skin for that matter in a literal sense that is just color terminology for race which is a social construct like everything else, not to mention if that was the case than East Asians for the most part would be white as well because they have skin tones similar to Europeans as well , White has cultural significance that goes back to the colonial America's and now beyond to origins and that entails Bad and Good.
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Repression, there are other non-reality "is law.Only but throughout the world, most Third World countries have the same problems, the atmosphere and circumstances.
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It is worrying that what our foreign policy has been made? They are like other crap officials. Maybe we need to change something important.sti
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I know that the only sensible reaction of Americans, is to recall that Mexico Yankee has it is limits patience. I really think Latin countries are non-compliance.
racial discrimination is common in America,there always some how that the Latinos are oppressed, I believe it.
The problem is serious , The goverment need to pay much attention to it .
I hope the peace is filled with the war.
Latinos in law school and many girlfriends. Another reason that I reveal the reluctance is that I have seen too many marriages in my family stay because of the infidelity of man. Of course, many non-Latino men are unfaithful, and I never believed that all Latino men were incredible, but my family history makes me nervous.
I think they are still oppressed in america.. The american can take others easily better then Latinos.
Mexican people should careful about it.I am also in confusion about there color problem .
Long articles, but I still consider it finished.some country also have racist problems.
Yeah,you are right,it's really.American have the color problems.
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